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« on: October 05, 2008, 08:02:05 PM »

We have modified the story codes somewhat, to include some more and to modify some existing ones in various ways. I will explain that in a moment. What we need you to do is go edit your stories and add the correct codes! (Hey, look, it gives you a chance to beta test the editing feature now!)

Added Codes
Age Prog - Character(s) is/are portrayed as older than seen in canon.
Age Reg - Character(s) is/are portrayed as younger than seen in canon.
Breathplay - asphyxiation, strangulation, etc. during sex
Booze II - Excessive alcohol use (i.e. binge drinking, getting wasted)
Chocolate - straight-up, no frills M/M, sex
Cumshot - Bukakke, cumshots
Death I - peaceful death of a character
Death II - non-snuff, violent death of a character (murder, etc.)
Drugs III - Hardcore drug use (cocaine, heroin, meth, etc.)
Frot - frottage; the rubbing together of genitals for sexual gratification
Grow - A character increases in size
Humiliation - disgrace, humiliation, shaming of a character, etc.
Language - use of curse words in a story
Self-Harm - non-cutting; things like eating disorders, addictions, etc.
OC - Original Character (generally in fanfic setting)
Shrink - A character decreases in size
Strawberry - straight-up, no frills F/F sex
Undead - Sex with non-vampiric living dead
Vomit - Self-explanatory. May or may not be graphic


Modified Code Definitions

From: ATF - (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms)
To: Booze I - Alcohol use (including underage drinking)

From: Vanilla - Straight-up, no-frills heterosexual sex.
To: Vanilla - straight-up, no frills M/F sex


From: Anal - Anal penetration, butt play, etc.
To: Anal - Anal penetration, butt play, anal fingering, etc.


If you have any questions about the changes, just ask!
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 08:37:13 PM »

I hate to be rude.  But this is straight up spam, in my opinion.  There were already too many content codes.  The only one on this list that I felt was needed was OC.

This kind of detail is what author's notes are for.  If I have to go down a checklist of a hundred things just to post my story, I'm not going to bother.  I'll go post somewhere else.

If I'm reading a M/M story, I expect to see male-male content or I wouldn't look.  Same thing with F/F or even het.  If every bit of foreplay and every sexual contact is spelled out in the codes, what's the point in reading it?

You've got a good thing going here, don't spoil it by going OCD with it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 09:11:28 PM »

Some codes are for Members Eyes Only. Others are for public viewing.

M/F, M/M, F/F are all public (PG basically) codes. They would imply a relationship, not necessarily sex. That's why the Vanilla, Chocolate, and Strawberry codes are there.

A lot of these are things that would make the story not viewable by the public and that is why they are there. The others are so you know what you're getting into before you read a story. Some people don't want to read certain things, so there's tags for it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 09:26:49 PM »

There is already a non-pornographic story tag.  If the story does not have this tag, I assume it contains something pornographic/sexual.  What sort would be defined by the other tags, M/F, M/M, whatever.

To me, tagging a story as m/m without the np tag is the same as "chocolate" and to do both would be redundant.  I wouldn't even look at the chocolate tag, probably.  Same for strawberry.  These are not common terms in my experience posting and reading fan fiction.  At first glance, I would assume they referred to using food items.  Vanilla is the only "flavor" term I've seen in common use.  Even then, I would consider using both M/F (without the non-porn tag) equivalent to vanilla.

If whether or not a story contains adult content is the point, a single yes/no adult tag would be clearer.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 12:54:31 PM »

I don't have a problem with detailed story codes because these will be useful for the search engine (hopefully  Evil )

Chocolate 
Strawberry
Vanilla


Look to me as M/M+PWP, F/F+PWP, M/F+PWP

The fact that some stories may be seen by public and some can't is important and I would like to know which codes do that (have them in bold, for example) Or, there could be "Members only" tag (which I would use for all Original work)

How about adding Somnophilia to the codes? Its a pretty big kink  Grin

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 01:39:34 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 03:21:39 PM »


May I say I wholeheartedly agree with you, Gin. I thought the initial layout of the codes was clear and concise and rightfully doesn't assume the reader to be less than intelligent in his/her reading choices.  Just my .02.


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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 03:54:37 PM »

1) Use of story codes should depend on architecture of the site. This boils down to:
"how are we going to find fics of interest when there are thousands of users and stories?"
For example, my typical search would look like this:
slash+yaoi+m/m+adult+angst+vampire+wip+... for original. I might add a couple of kinks of interest tags into that search or swap "vampire" for "werewolf". Possibly add -character death-fluff. Notice the first three tags - they are interchangable and in my searches I use all three because of how actual authors use, abuse and mislabel their own fics.

Harry Potter or any other fandom specific search would include pairings for sure.

This goes a bit beyond codes (or tags, as I see them)

2) Somno sounds pretty good. I was going to add Somnophilia to a chapter warning in my HP fic. Could label the whole fic with Somno as well to warn the readers.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 07:42:47 PM »

I'm not trying to be difficult about the tags, but right now, the sheer number of them -- taking up more than a full screen on my monitor -- actually makes it difficult to find the ones I need. 

I think it's unreasonable to expect an author to sift through scores and scores of tags, many of which are terms that they may not recognize at all.  To those involved with actually building the site, they are familiar, I suppose.  Right now coding my stories properly is the most tedious and time consuming part of uploading a fic.  If you must have this many excruciatingly specific tags, then they need to be organized in some intuitive or hierarchical fashion.  Drop down menus or groupings.

For the sake of clarity, let me explain how I code a fic on any archive:

1.  Mark the fic's age appropriateness by whatever method the archive uses.  Here, that would appear to be using/not using the "non-pornographic" tag.  It is the first thing I search for.  If in doubt, I upgrade.

2.  Define the nature of the romantic relationships/sexual encounters.  M/F, M/M, F/F, F/F/M, etc.  I avoid using terms like yaoi, slash, femmeslash, shouta, whatever, because there is so much confusion with the terms and I am not comfortable with them.  I generally use them if they are the only appropriate tags.

3.  Define any genre-type caveats:  OC, OFC, OMC, AU, SI, Mary Sue

4.  Define any major turn ons/turn offs:  D/s, Anal, Oral Sex, femmedom, S&M, Violence, Snuff, etc.  I do not sweat small stuff I consider foreplay or part of an activity.

5.  Summarize my warnings and add any that are not defined by the archive tags in my Author's Notes.  I typically save my source files with disclaimers and author's notes as a habit, so it's just a matter of cutting and pasting. 

I only deviate from this process if the archive's structure forces me to.  Each step is in what I consider the order of priority with #5 being a general "cover my own ass" policy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 07:17:15 PM »

I like detailed story codes. The thing I like the most though is the fact that story codes aren't part of the summary. It also means that people who are looking for specific material can find it more easily. I'm very much the type the gets "in the mood" for something. I like to be able to easily find what I'm looking for.

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2008, 04:37:54 AM »

I agree with Agaib about usefulness of detailed story codes. As a reader, I would like to be able to find specific fics of interest.
On another hand, Ginevra makes a good point about having them organized in groups. The posting author shouldn't spend more than a minute on code selection for their fic.

Personally, I would like something to be done to differentiate fanfiction from originals. Also, I would like to have a "members only" option for my fics, even if its not porn.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2008, 08:28:53 AM »

Personally, I would like something to be done to differentiate fanfiction from originals.

You mean other than having it in the 'Originals' category?
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008, 02:45:55 PM »

Personally, I would like something to be done to differentiate fanfiction from originals.

You mean other than having it in the 'Originals' category?

I mean, robots.txt and such. Something to prevent unwanted caching, aggregating and whatnot. Granted, most original fics won't get published by 'legit' publishers, but they are still copyrighted materials.
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